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to je napisao jedan ''bosanski intelektualac'', naci cu ponovo taj clanak, postati ga, i reci ko je napisao...
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mislim da bi tebi Å arane kao jednom kulturno uzdignutom i najbitnije politicki svjesnom momku trebao biti jasan znacaj jednog od najkontraverznijih bendova u historiji, za Balkan, a posebno za Sarajevo i BiH. ljudi koji su za vrijeme rata dosli u poruseno, gladno Sarajevo i odrzali dvodnevni event/koncert pod nazivom 'NSK Drzava Sarajevo' ("The reluctance of the E.C, UN and NATO to intercede to halt the aggression in Bosnia and the nationalist disputes of ex-Yugoslavia and the ex-Soviet Union prompted Laibach and NSK to proclaim themselves as their own state, one without geographical boundaries or physical borders") . kolektiv koji je imao muda svijetu skrenuti paznju na nezainteresovanost zapada za prekid ratnog stanja u BiH i prostorima Ex-Yu. album 'NATO' je skup covera ratnih pjesama ('Final Countdown', 'War', 'In The Army Now'...), a zadnja, srpska ratna himna iz prvog svjetskog rata na jako ironican anti-militaristicki, anti-nacionalisticki nacin prikazuje sta se ovdje desavalo u to vrijeme. strasna provokacija, al ne sarajevskoj publici. taj isti album je posvecen Bosni i Hercegovini i dogadjajima koji su se ovdje odvijali, ako ti to vec dosad nije jasno. to sto su te svojim izgledom uspjeli zbuniti, i sto te podsjecaju na 'nacisticki' Rammstein ne udaljava te daleko od onih klinaca sto po Slozi salutiraju uz 'Du Hast'. NSK - Neue Slowenische Kunst (umjetnicki kolektiv(http://www.nskstate.com)). Rammstein se fura na Laibach, ovi drugi postoje od 1980., i nisam siguran da li kontas da nije stvar u parama.

napisao si par ko kurac glupih postova, a posto vidim da ti nisu poznati detalji oko benda i njihovog stvaralastva, kao jaranu bi ti predlozio da se ne ofiras. i moram ti priznat da si me strasno iznervirao... kad si ti prestao razmisljati, pobogu?! haj zivio!
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U cemu je fazon sa nazi uniformama? Nisam upucen, ali izgleda mi neukusno.
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osunnećen wrote:
mislim da bi tebi Å arane kao jednom kulturno uzdignutom i najbitnije politicki svjesnom momku trebao biti jasan znacaj jednog od najkontraverznijih bendova u historiji, za Balkan, a posebno za Sarajevo i BiH. ljudi koji su za vrijeme rata dosli u poruseno, gladno Sarajevo i odrzali dvodnevni event/koncert pod nazivom 'NSK Drzava Sarajevo' ("The reluctance of the E.C, UN and NATO to intercede to halt the aggression in Bosnia and the nationalist disputes of ex-Yugoslavia and the ex-Soviet Union prompted Laibach and NSK to proclaim themselves as their own state, one without geographical boundaries or physical borders") . kolektiv koji je imao muda svijetu skrenuti paznju na nezainteresovanost zapada za prekid ratnog stanja u BiH i prostorima Ex-Yu. album 'NATO' je skup covera ratnih pjesama ('Final Countdown', 'War', 'In The Army Now'...), a zadnja, srpska ratna himna iz prvog svjetskog rata na jako ironican anti-militaristicki, anti-nacionalisticki nacin prikazuje sta se ovdje desavalo u to vrijeme. strasna provokacija, al ne sarajevskoj publici. taj isti album je posvecen Bosni i Hercegovini i dogadjajima koji su se ovdje odvijali, ako ti to vec dosad nije jasno. to sto su te svojim izgledom uspjeli zbuniti, i sto te podsjecaju na 'nacisticki' Rammstein ne udaljava te daleko od onih klinaca sto po Slozi salutiraju uz 'Du Hast'. NSK - Neue Slowenische Kunst (umjetnicki kolektiv(http://www.nskstate.com)). Rammstein se fura na Laibach, ovi drugi postoje od 1980., i nisam siguran da li kontas da nije stvar u parama.

napisao si par ko kurac glupih postova, a posto vidim da ti nisu poznati detalji oko benda i njihovog stvaralastva, kao jaranu bi ti predlozio da se ne ofiras. i moram ti priznat da si me strasno iznervirao... kad si ti prestao razmisljati, pobogu?! haj zivio!


lijepo post. Znash dok sam pisao one gore postove, imao sam otvorenih 25 prozora u kojima sam imao ukucan keyword laibach. I postove sam napisao samo da bi iznervirao debile, steta shto se uvijek ti upalish. Kako god lijep post bio, oni mi se gade. Politicki svjestan nisam, da jesam, pridruzio bi se govnima i krao pare.

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ma svjestan si u svom fazonu, anarhisticki, sto je sasvim dovoljno da razumijes ono sto oni decenijama rade. pa da, imao si otvoren jedan prozor u kome Vule u jednom dijelu velica Laibach ko bogove, u drugom dize tenzije pitanjima kao, kako su to mogli odsvirat '95, kakva je to provokacija i to je dovoljno da ne procitas ostalih 24.. mogu razumjet da ih ne volis, ne leze ti, al mi smeta sto ne citam tvoje rijeci...
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Stargazer wrote:
U cemu je fazon sa nazi uniformama? Nisam upucen, ali izgleda mi neukusno.


"Conclusion

Neue Slowenische Kunst are clearly much more than just a totalitarian art movement, so much so that to identify them as such is a gross underestimation of their strategy and intent. But yet for their strategy to succeed, they must be seen as nothing more than a totalitarian collective making totalitarian statements. This is NSK's surface appearance, and one which they themselves go to great lengths to promote. Under that one dimensional surface lies the true, very complex identity of NSK. Using the language, form and strategy of totalitarian systems back on those systems, NSK assimilate and subvert them, showing that on one hand totalitarianism is not as total and monolithic as it makes itself appear to be (it can be manipulated) and on the other, that those systems that claim to represent freedom and anti-totalitarianism, such as capitalism and popular western culture, are in fact, just as restrictive, manipulating and totalitarian as those they claim to oppose.

Through the constant and universal appropriation of totalitarian language of all types, NSK build a model of totalitarianism, engaging in every facet, in itself more total than any one of the individual systems that make up the different examples and forms of totalitarianism as a universal, yet not unified phenomenon. NSK unify totalitarianism not to affirm it but to parody it. In order to do this successfully, it must not be obvious, or else it would too be subject to manipulation, therefore, NSK create pastiche totalitarianism - parody without the comedy, humour that is not a joke.

This pastiche model is built from the various departments of NSK, and in turn by their various functions. Not only do NSK engage in the language of totalitarianism, but also in the total language of art; painting, music, film, graphics etc. are all tools or potential tools. Laibach, as founders and chief theoreticians of NSK and as manipulators of popular music - one of the most powerful and universally understood languages of global culture - are the most successful of NSK's groups, not only in terms of fame and fortune, but in terms of NSK strategy.

The biggest paradox in this strategy is that NSK can never be seen to admit to being anything other than plain totalitarianists. If they did, the pastiche model would become too obvious to be effective and totalitarianism is not open to obvious attack. Therefore, NSK would never to able to condone my findings in this Thesis. The final words go to Laibach, in reference to this interpretation of NSK's structure and strategy.

We are not politically correct enough to correct anybody's opinion. We can only help you to create your own answers to your own questions.
(Spex, 1994, p 9) "

http://www.thisismydna.com/nsk/#chapter5

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