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mOrtiCia
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joj svega ovdje....ccc...ja sam uvijek govorila da NW trebaju zahvaliti Bogu i na Marcu shto ga imaju.on je odlican kao pjevac i muzicar.ma mogu oni i bez nje,mene je ona totalno izivcirala svojim ponasanjem i kao shto rekoh:ak je to fakat istina (shto rece tuomas u pismu,da je postala prava diva,citaj Bitch),onda neka joj....a i razocarenje je shto nije ucestvovala na probama kao ni u muzici...
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Bezze je komentarisati tudje stvari.Prvo su oni sami idioti sto se prepucavaju preko medija,a drugo idioti su i oni koji komentarisu njihovo ponasanje i sl.Postujem ih zbog pjesama,a sve ostalo nek rijese izmedju sebe i kad donesu odluku obznane je dostojanstveno u javnosti bez suvisnih rijeci.Ionako sta god rekli traceva ce biti.Ovako je sve ispalo ciganski.
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ma meni jest krivo..al fakat istina..koji se ku*** imaju prepucavat preko medija..sve objavljeno...mislim bash bezze...
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Lena_Rose wrote:
Missy... malo izdaješ "svoj" bend, ne misliš li? :?

Hehehehe, draga moja Leno, za života nikad!!! Volim NW i uvijek ću voljeti, no matter what :wink:
Međutim ono što sam htjela reći je između ostalog i ovo:
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ak je to fakat istina (shto rece tuomas u pismu,da je postala prava diva,citaj Bitch),onda neka joj....


Ja Tarju poštujem zbog njene karijere i sve to. I ništa neće na to uticati :wink: a o NW pogotovo da ne govorim...Međutim ovo je od nje totalno razočaravajuće :( i da, biti će drugačije u bendu bez nje, ali ima stvari koje se kad puknu ne mogu popraviti:) a ako je već dotle došlo onda je stvar zavšena:) nažalost
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joj dosadni ste vise s tarjom, napravili tri stranice rasprave zato sto je izbacena, nek je vala, mene je ionako vazda iritirala
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Vala bas...sto se mene tice i bilo je vrijeme da Nightwish prestane praviti pop pjesmice i rijesi se Tarje kao vokala. Tarja je bas postala bitch i to se dalo primjetiti, jedna od onih "ja i samo ja", a takve i ne pripadaju u metal muzici. Eto joj sada njene koncertne klasicne dvorane (ne da imam nesto protiv njih)...pa nek zaradjuje pare tako. Ko je je*e!!!

Me happy :D :D :D
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Evo (koga interesuje naravno):

"Since last Sunday morning, I have been asked to express my position by magazines, newspapers, radio and TV stations, fan clubs and fans from Finland and from all over the world. So many in total that it is physically impossible for me to find the time to reply to them all individually. Hence I decided to put down a couple of words in this text to let my fans, family and friends and the public know how I feel after the recent events.
This is a moment of grief and pain and I find it very hard to speak.

At the moment I am in Argentina. I hope you can understand that after this shocking life change comparable to a divorce, I didn’t want to stay alone at home in Finland. My husband had booked his tickets to Argentina many months ago and I decided to travel with him at the last minute.

But the fact that I am in Argentina and the long distance should of course not be an excuse not to comment on the situation.

Last Friday 21st of October was a day the whole band had been waiting for a long time.

Practice started early in the morning. I was very sick and nervous because of the fact that I was not even able to sing during the rehearsals.

Also nervous because the concert programme was going to be longer than usual for a Nightwish concert. Furthermore we were going to have a special guest to perform with us, more wardrobe changes for myself than usual and for the first time big screens and bigger production on stage.

Not to forget that the concert was going to be recorded and filmed.

The five of us had finally made it to play Hartwall Arena.

Even though every one of us knew in advance that the concert was sold out, finally on stage, we saw that screaming, applauding and standing people took every seat. The feeling was unbelievable.

I will never forget how amazing it was to experience the Finnish audience’s gorgeous reception.

When the concert was over, I cried of happiness on stage. Happy tears because I was able to do my best as always even though I was sick. Happy tears because our long tour got the greatest possible ending and happy tears because of the best recognition an artist can get: applause and smiling faces.

At that moment I didn’t know that I was going to cry again soon.

After the concert, the guys of the band invited me backstage to join them and asked me to hug altogether. This felt strange as it was the same kind of hug we traditionally came together for before every concert. That tradition remained between us, even though the tension and increasing pressure already existed since a long period of time.

The immediate feeling in me was to thank them, which I did loudly but without any reply.

After this, they gave me a letter and asked me to read it the following day. The same letter that is now public.

I read it and was shocked.

I didn’t know what to say and still at the moment that I am writing these lines, I don’t.

I sense great anger in that letter and I continue to have very confused feelings about it, but I don’t want to reply to this anger with an even greater anger. Private matters should never be taken to the public.

I know this moment we are going through is very sad for everybody, including the guys.

While there would have been so many different possibilities and ways to express what they wanted to tell me with the letter, I remain unable to understand the way they chose to handle this. I am sorry that the guys got me so wrong. I don’t recognize myself at all from the way they described me.


They mentioned mean things about me, but the fact that they involved Marcelo, my husband, crossed the line. He is the man I love, my friend and has been my biggest support over the last years.

We have been band mates for 9 years, experienced good times and not so good ones. I thought I knew them, but I was wrong.

Still everything that has happened is not enough to make them evil in my eyes.

Now comes a time to calm down and reflect upon all of this.

I need to put my feelings together again and I promise to come back to public soon.
I will announce a press conference where I will be talking about my future plans. This doesn’t mean that you should expect this conference to be an instrument to attack anybody. It won’t.

The wonderful music we created together won’t be touched by recent events.

Thanks a lot to all the people who are supporting me during these sad times. My family, friends, colleagues, and the great number of fans. I love you and I really feel I have not failed you.

Tarja "
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Dobro... I šta sad reći? Ko je u pravu? Oni ili ona? Meni je to sve malo weird, at first place...
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Nightwish - power ???

ne mogu da vjerujem
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Enc666teR wrote:
Nightwish - power ???

ne mogu da vjerujem


Pa kolega....a joooj! Moraju uvijek vodolije nasuprot svima, lol!

Pored sve "tuge i ocaja" (muhahah) sto je Tarja otisla, dusha komentarise sto je Nightwish stavljen u power...lol!!!!
Go for it :D
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Enc666teR wrote:
Nightwish - power ???

ne mogu da vjerujem

A ne mogu ni ja pa Å¡ta sad? Tu su sve njihove teme tako da je i ova.
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ahhaha,jest glupa majko moja.ona prica pola pisma o koncertu u finskoj,kako se snimao,pa kako je ona ljuta,pa odjednom nije ljuta,al najcrnje mi ej bilo kad je rekla-

''They mentioned mean things about me, but the fact that they involved Marcelo, my husband, crossed the line. He is the man I love, my friend and has been my biggest support over the last years. ''

hm...ok Tarja,ali ti si s njima bila 9 god,a njega zna,nema ni 2 god.I mean,Hellou?oni joj kao nisu bili podrska??? ccc...jadno uglavnom,izivcirala me pravo...ne bih se cudila da je ovo njeno pismo (koje je supljak zesci) napisao njen beloved Marcelo...hahah
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mOrtiCia wrote:
ahhaha,jest glupa majko moja.ona prica pola pisma o koncertu u finskoj,kako se snimao,pa kako je ona ljuta,pa odjednom nije ljuta,al najcrnje mi ej bilo kad je rekla-

''They mentioned mean things about me, but the fact that they involved Marcelo, my husband, crossed the line. He is the man I love, my friend and has been my biggest support over the last years. ''

hm...ok Tarja,ali ti si s njima bila 9 god,a njega zna,nema ni 2 god.I mean,Hellou?oni joj kao nisu bili podrska??? ccc...jadno uglavnom,izivcirala me pravo...ne bih se cudila da je ovo njeno pismo (koje je supljak zesci) napisao njen beloved Marcelo...hahah


Smiri malo emocije,reagujes ko zesci klinac.
Rekoh,to je njihova stvar,ko postuje njihovu muziku ima dovoljno materijala da slusa.
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Nemojte dzabe curu osudjivat na osnovu par redova i na osnovu gotovo kukavicjeg Tuomasovog (i ostalih momaka) postupka da osobi koja mu je kao sestra i s kojom je proveo 9 godina u bendu (i prije toga su bili frendovi) PISMOM, JAVNO kaze da nije vise s njima.
Zaboga, zar nije zavriejdila bar da joj kaze oci u oci jednu tako bitnu stvar?
Nijedna strana se nije ponijela najbolje ni ovi s pismom, a mozda ni ona s odnosom prema "bendu", ali necu da sudim ko je upravu jer vjerovatno ima svega po malo.
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Zaboga, zar nije zavriejdila bar da joj kaze oci u oci jednu tako bitnu stvar?


Ali hajde razmisli malo...nije ni njima bilo lako izbaciti nju iz benda. Nekada ljudima ponestane snage da kazu tako nesto u oci...pa koriste pisma. Desavalo se i meni :D
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I meni je isto bezze sto je sve to tako preko nekakvih pisama, al kako ih ne gotivim svejedno mi vala, ne znam sto se uzbudjujete toliko...
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Evo vidio sam je danas u novinama, lijepa je ta Tarja

Mislim, ne znam sta ce jadni Nightpiš brez lepe Tarje, kad im se citav muzicko-imidzčkkkkcki koncept zasnivo na lepoj Tarji

Ja sam zgrozen

Over & out
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Sirennia wrote:
Gia wrote:
Zaboga, zar nije zavriejdila bar da joj kaze oci u oci jednu tako bitnu stvar?


Ali hajde razmisli malo...nije ni njima bilo lako izbaciti nju iz benda. Nekada ljudima ponestane snage da kazu tako nesto u oci...pa koriste pisma. Desavalo se i meni :D


OK, al ponavljam, osobi koja ti je kao SESTRA, koju znas gotovo CIJELI zivot i s kojom si u bendu bar 9 godina MORAS oci u oci rec. Nema tu "nemas snage", previse je bitna stvar da to uradis toliko javno i na taj nacin.
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ipak ovi iz Nightwisha imaju muda...
il' mozda opet su se nazaradjivali dosta para, pa nisu htjeli vishe da je trpe...
svaka im chast izbacili su najkomercijalniju tachku u svom bendu...
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SYMPHONY wrote:
mOrtiCia wrote:
ahhaha,jest glupa majko moja.ona prica pola pisma o koncertu u finskoj,kako se snimao,pa kako je ona ljuta,pa odjednom nije ljuta,al najcrnje mi ej bilo kad je rekla-

''They mentioned mean things about me, but the fact that they involved Marcelo, my husband, crossed the line. He is the man I love, my friend and has been my biggest support over the last years. ''

hm...ok Tarja,ali ti si s njima bila 9 god,a njega zna,nema ni 2 god.I mean,Hellou?oni joj kao nisu bili podrska??? ccc...jadno uglavnom,izivcirala me pravo...ne bih se cudila da je ovo njeno pismo (koje je supljak zesci) napisao njen beloved Marcelo...hahah


Smiri malo emocije,reagujes ko zesci klinac.
Rekoh,to je njihova stvar,ko postuje njihovu muziku ima dovoljno materijala da slusa.


moje emocije su moja stvar...ja njih volim i previshe i zato i jesam izivcirana...(btw ko si ti da sudis kako sam ja reagovala,chill out,dude).ja sam napisala shta mislim,a naravno da cu ih nastaviti slusati....uvijek i jesam,no matter what..al sve je ovo malo otislo predaleko,valjda ce se skulirati malo i ona i oni...
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